Rozmowy o Bronku toczone przez analityków wywiadu jankesów opublikowane przez WikiLeaks.
Jak widać jankesi wiedzą, przyjmują na klatę i robią swoje, ale z ich strony, chyba zwycięstwo Dudy zostało przyjęte z ulgą.
Wrzucam, gdyż w małym stopniu, ale jednak te informacje potwierdzają doskonale w tym względzie przedstawione informacje przez Sumlińskiego.
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/17.....itary.html
"I will ask my source. The only problem is that the Kaczynskis could never
get to the full information. WSI literally ran Poland between 1991-2005.
They were in charge of a lot of the economy. So it was really difficult to
dislodge them. And the idea that the Kaczynski's would have been able to
do it on their own is difficult to imagine. A lot of the old WSI guys are
still running the big businesses in Poland.
It's like the KGB guys running business in Russia, except in Poland the
"KGB" took until 2005 to be dissolved, whereas the Russians did that right
at the beginning -- with everyone going into private business immediately"
and then the KGB had to be "reborn". In Poland, the WSI just fused private
business with intelligence outright.
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From: "Lauren Goodrich" <goodrich>
To: "Analyst List" <analysts>
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 12:11:28 PM
Subject: Re: INSIGHT - POLAND - Komorowski's
Connection to Military Intelligence
does the remaining twin still have the filing cabinets filled iwth the old
security files from Soviet days locked at his mom's house?
Marko Papic wrote:
Yes, you are correct. It is purge time -- of PiS loyalists in
intelligence services -- and Komorowski has vested interest in doing an
extra sanitary sweep because of his links to former Military
Intelligence (WSI). By the way, the Military Intelligence in Poland
owned a lot of the private businesses even as far as up to the 1990s.
Lots of shady deals were done during the Polish "shock therapy", which
by the way was the theoretical model for the Russian shock therapy...
and we all know how that one went...
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From: "Lauren Goodrich" <goodrich>
To: "Analyst List" <analysts>
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 12:07:17 PM
Subject: Re: INSIGHT - POLAND - Komorowski's Connection
to Military Intelligence
so in short.... it's purge time
btw, I'm stealing his term "political parachuters"... brilliant.
Marko Papic wrote:
This by the way was his reply to my request that he explain to me what
this article meant:
Polish security chief plans restructuring, downsizing
Text of report by Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita on 27 July
[Report by Edyta Zemla and Mariusz Kowalewski: "Upcoming Redundancies
in the BBN"]
People appointed by Aleksander Szczyglo [deceased chief of the
National Security Office (BBN)] and [former Military
Counterintelligence Chief] Antoni Macierewicz will lose their jobs in
the BBN.
"Last week, Acting President Grzegorz Schetyna received a plan of
restructuring in the BBN. It assumes reducing the number of employees
to 80," Rzeczpospolita's source from the BBN claims.
The BBN currently employs 94 staff. After [President-Elect] Bronislaw
Komorowski's victory in the presidential election, Witold
Waszczykowski, deputy of Aleksander Szczyglo (BBN chief who died in
the Smolensk crash), and General Zbigniew Nowek [former intelligence
chief] stepped down from their posts. The BBN's new leadership,
including BBN Chief General Stanislaw Koziej, is now preparing for
more reshuffles.
Attorney Marek Cieciura is responsible for preparing the BBN's new
organizational structure. He worked for many years in the National
Defence Ministry, also as director general. He left the government
when Law and Justice [PiS] assumed power and Szczyglo was appointed
[as defence minister].
The BBN is currently composed of four departments: the National
Defence Department (which liaises with the Defence Ministry), the
Internal Security Department, the International Security Department,
and the Social Communication Department. According to Rzeczpospolita's
sources, the restructuring plan entails scrapping the latter
department and renaming the other three. Extended under Szczyglo's
leadership, the Social Communication Department deals with monitoring
the media, promoting patriotism, releasing the BBN publications, and
liaising with the media, among other tasks. It is headed by Jaroslaw
Rybak, one of Szczyglo's associates from the Defence Ministry. The
department also employs several other close associates of the late BBN
chief.
According to the new structure, the Social Communication Department's
responsibilities would be shifted onto the office of the BBN chief.
But that is not the end. Changes in other departments are aimed at
getting rid of the people who worked with Antoni Macierewicz on the
vetting of the Military Information Services [WSI]. They joined the
BBN when the coalition of the Civic Platform [PO] and the Polish
Peasant Party [PSL] disbanded the WSI Vetting Commission. "They have a
room on the first floor. No one knows what they are doing. One can
only guess that they are at work when they go out to get some tea or
coffee," one BBN employee told Rzeczpospolita.
It is no secret that neither the government nor President-Elect
Bronislaw Komorowski have a good opinion about the people who worked
on the vetting of the WSI. Komorowski even voted against the law that
disbanded the agency. In turn, the Defence Ministry has problems with
the WSI Vetting Report. It has to pay compensation to people whom
Macierewicz's team slanderously accused of collaboration with the WSI.
The lawsuits have cost the Defence Ministry over 150,000 zlotys so
far.
The Defence Ministry employees admit off the record that the report
led to the covers of several important Polish spy rings being blown.
No one wants to confirm this on the record, citing confidentiality
reasons.
When Rzeczpospolita asked BBN Chief General Stanislaw Koziej about the
restructuring plan, the general confirmed that such a document had
been drafted. "There will be changes in the BBN provided that the
president agrees," Koziej says. And it is almost certain that the
president will approve the document. It remains unclear whether it
will be signed by Schetyna or Komorowski. "Signing the document simply
means a different schedule of changes. They will be implemented in
August or September at the latest," Rzeczpospolita's source says.
Previous BBN chiefs also changed the structure of the office, which
allowed them to make redundancies. The BBN was last reorganized in
2009, when Szczyglo replaced Wladyslaw Stasiak as BBN chief. Back
then, those who lost their jobs included the head of the Defence
Department.
Source: Rzeczpospolita, Warsaw in Polish 27 Jul 10
BBC Mon EU1 EuroPol 280710 gk/osc
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From: "Michael Wilson" <michael>
To: "Analyst List" <analysts>
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 12:05:39 PM
Subject: INSIGHT - POLAND - Komorowski's Connection to Military
Intelligence
PUBLICATION: YES
SOURCE: PO 505
ATTRIBUTION: contact
in Polish policy
making
SOURCE
DESCRIPTION:Head of
Conservative Think
Tank Close to PiS
SOURCE Reliability
:
ITEM CREDIBILITY:
DISTRIBUTION:Analysts
SPECIAL
HANDLING:Marko
Hello Marko,
Sorry for delay, Ia**m on vacation.
My reading is as follows:
1. There is several threads in this text
2. Restructuring is always a cover-name for sacking unwanted
employees. BBN (National Security Bureau) was shelter for political
parachuters (as we call them), that is, people who lost their jobs in
the executive and found them under president Kaczynski umbrella.
3. The new chief a** gen. Koziej a** is rather different guy
that late Stasiak (technocrat) and SzczygAA*o (politician). He is
former general, self-avowed strategist (a thinker or something, though
he is educated tactician, actually during his education in Moscow
Russians held strategy for themselves onlya*|).
4. Maciarewicz, chief of the board dissolving WSI (Military
Information Service), has not lost any of at least 20 lawsuits he
privately had with people mentioned in his report a** Ministry of
Defense paid for nothing, that is for political reasons, just to show
how Maciarewicz is irresponsible (the story goes: a**we have to pay
his political debtsa**).
5. Uncovering of some agents a** in which Gazeta Wyborcza was
also instrumental when they wrote about their profiles on social
networking webs (hmmma*| where did they know from?) a** was taken as
some necessary cost. Maciarewicz assumed that in order to dig to the
(spoiled) roots they will have to hurt also some less important people
(e.g. younger guys in Afghanistan).
6. But the most interesting thing I understood in last few
months is that the archives of WSI are not in the Institute of
National Memory (along with communist political police ones), as the
bill stipulated, but are probably on shelves of the successors (SWW,
SKW). The legal basis for that was such: WSI managed to re-activate
old agents a month before dissolution, and keep archives still under
a**active and secreta** clause. The gossip (or rather unofficial
knowledge) says thata**s good news for (e.g.) many influential
journalists and media managersa*|
7. As for Komorowskia*|
http://www.polskatimes.pl/stronaglowna/2.....,id,t.html
Komorowski had connections with WSI on ground that:
A. He was minister of defense (he formally created WSI when he
changed the name of communist military intelligence)
B. He was the only member of PO and PiS parties who voted against
the dissolution of WSI
C. You can always ask: Why HE was the minister? If you assume a**
as I do a** that the period of 1981-1989 was the time when military
intelligence governed Poland and communist party (generals:
Jaruzelski, Kiszczak, PoAA 1/4oga etc., by the way they kicked ass of
MieczysAA*aw Milewski, general of rival a**civiliana** servises), you
have to assume also that the most critical parts of Polish state
(finances, arms, telecommunication etc., and at least partially media
and politics) were controlled by WSI-guys who was a** I also assume -
successful in surfing on the wave of transformation. Transformation of
political capital into financial, political, or informational one,
etc.
D. You can only speculate what was the nature of the nexus at the
beginning. It is possible that Komorowski was just stupid (which given
his many a**bushizmsa** during presidential campaign) is very
possible.
But you can also assume he is a**hookeda**. I heard two gossips (but
they are much much more gossipy than that about the journalists): he
killed someone during a hunting in the 80a**s or he has some
out-of-wedlock kids. But these are only gossips. The fact is that in
the report about dissolution of WSI he is mentioned as one of the
shareholders of some company they established transferring 200 000 of
DM. It is really interesting how he managed to collect so much
property, given he has 5 children, if he started to earn serious money
only after 1989. Komorowski is currently one of the 10 parliament
members with the longest record."
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